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"You fine, baby," Duke called out to the mysterious new girl in the neighborhood.
"But his kind, warm hidden personality is the only thing Victoria can see as she lets Duke take her virtue."
HAHAAHAAAAAAA!!! HAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAA!! Does she work it in the library too?
RPM
This breaks my heart. Big time.
heartbreaking on many levels. and think -- they're just on #2. this could take off like Harry Potter... o_O sowry, rpm.

i have to think that someone has to be enjoying some serious recreational drugs to be able to produce this stuff. White Chocolate? "inner-city version of My Fair Lady"?? someone help me.
OMFG. You have GOT to be kidding me!
Take off like Harry Potter? Can you imagine the opening day parties they'd have for this crap? *lol*
at a minimum, the launch party should involve large trays of white, milk, and dark chocolate truffles. SOLD!
e2c
ummm.... I am so sorry about the implications re. darker-skinned vs. lighter-skinned women.

It sounds more like it's based on one of Shakespeare's tragedies, really.

at a minimum, the launch party should involve large trays of white, milk, and dark chocolate truffles. SOLD!

LMAO, that's good.
Can I just tell you...I know people who write SHIT like this (with the "I'm so stupid I need you to paint me a picture" book titles). I am so restraining myself from a social commentary rant on stupid trash positions as fiction.

*deep breathes*

Can someone help me find my chi? I seem to have misplaced it.
e, i've been puzzling over the My Fair Lady reference too. I just don't get that one. I hope I don't have to read the book just to figure out what they're talking about. Which Shakespearean tragedy are you thinking of? Not Othello... unless this is a darker storyline than it appears on the surface.
Here's a comment I think you'll appreciate, from Amazon.com{

NOT EVEN WORTH 1 STAR!!!!!!, August 16, 2006
By LoveToReadMyBooks (St. Louis, MO) - See all my reviews
Thankfully I rented this book from the library, instead of spending any of my money on it. White Chocolate has a vivid imagination when comes to whoredom, but is not a good writer. This author perpetuates two stereotypes.
1. That white women or women that look like white women are so far superior to Black women that Black men will do any and everything to have them, including killing his brother.

2. Black men and women's sole purpose in life is to have never ending sex. It doesn't matter who or how many they have sex with just as long as it's SEX.

This book was published by URBAN Books, which led me to believe the target audience is urban readers which comes in a wide range of beautiful hues. As an "Urban" reader, I found it insulting and divisive to have placed worth according to skin tone.

And someone posted on CuteOverload the other day that romance fiction isn't trash because, after all, it does billions of dollars in sales every year...

restrain yourself! no no. let it all out*, rpm. i wanna hear this rant. it sounds good. we'll all help you pick up the shards of your shattered chi after.

*unless it would be really bad for you. in which case just go have a nice bubble bath.

Exactly. Amen.

But the thing that makes me saddest, it that most of this crap comes from writers of color. And further more...they think it's "creativity."
And then, in White Chocolate 3, Duke is on the Down Low! (Gotta cover all the bases).
i think you should say it, if you feel ok about doing so here.... i think we need to hear it!!!
yes - about writers of color.
*exhales*

Here's my thing...

I know at least...not kidding you...at least fifteen writers of color, writing fiction, deeply imaginative, creative and thought provoking fiction. They are rejected repeatedly and told:

1. There is no market for what you're writing
2. Our research indicates that the African-American readership tends to gravitate towards stories with **insert rascist, ignorant, social nonsensical gibberish here**

I don't know who makes me crazier. The small minded, idiots that right this stuff and capitalize on dangerous stereotypes encouraging this small minded crap as "literature"...OR...the publishers who want to tell me as a writer and reader...that because I am African American, THIS is the shit I want to read.

...And this is the stuff they choose to publish. Instead of getting angry about it and demanding more...we call it "ours."

It's bullshit.

*whew...fans face* Thank you. I needed that.
RPM
I was so pissed, I didn't edit. Sorry for the typos. And IG...thank you for letting me express my anger in this space. Didn't mean to hog the comments. I love that you posted this.
Thank you for posting this - I can't even begin to imagine how many open wounds this hits,hard. (and I really do mean "Can't begin,,,,," because I am a white woman.)
You're not exactly "hogging the comments," RPM.... And I think we really need to hear your POV .
i hear you. i think many, many, many "minority" writers run into this attitude from publishers. my ex is an Asian-American novelist and short story writer (published many times over) and he has often run into these kinds of responses from editors and publishers.
"Why isn't the protagonist more overtly Asian?"
"We need the Asian characters to be described in more ethnic terms. Talk about what they look like, e.g. their slanted eyes."
"Where are the Asian themes? I.e., first and second generation immigrant conflict? Difficulties in assimilation?"
"No one will want to read this. The Asian characters are portrayed just like everyone else."

Think I'm making this shit up? Nope.
Yeah, it's called marketing and the dollar is always the bottom line. Publishing, like any industry, is most interested in the Almighty Dollar. This crap exists because people buy it, sad but true.

I find it difficult to separate this from all the hundreds of other media enterprises that glorify/glamorize racism, drugs, brutality,and violence. They just want to sell it to a market segment instead of the market at large and it's disgusting because they've targeted self-hate as their selling point. And still, people buy it without even knowing why.

...they've targeted self-hate as their selling point.

The sadder thing is how deliberately it's done, in any cases.


oh, i forgot -- "Where are the overachieving Asian nerd characters? And the sexless Asian males?" -- always a favorite.
RPM, I'm wondering if maybe you've got some reading recommendations.... I would love to hear more of your thoughts on all of this, as well as on younger writers whose work you like.
I worked as an assistant editor at a large educational publishing house, for almost 6 years and you wouldn't believe the equally-contrived portrayals of minorities our clients required us to adhere to. The leap to market publishing isn't that far.
Exactly, exactly, exactly. I know this spans across cultures with a flimsy expectation of what we like, don't like, do and don't do across cultural lines. What we look like, how we behave, what drives us. And it sells. So when I make my impassioned argument about how this is crap, there are numbers that support this stuff purchased in massive quantities. Ugh. There is so much work that needs to be done, it feels overwhelming at times...

Especially when I look at people who look back at me and go..."it's just a story."

I haven't read any romance novels about people of color But you know what? Romances about white people are just as trashy. They all have a gorgeous, vulnerable woman and a hunky stud who seduces (translation: rapes) her, and they "fall in love" and spend the rest of their lives having hot monkey sex together.

And they live happily ever after.

Amen.

But these books DON'T promote self-hatred....
Actually, I think I will post some reading recommendations...and if it's alright IG, link back to this as the prompt for my rant on the topic. Ironically, there are some offenders I know...who will read it and be pissed. But...such is life.

I don't mean to say we can inspect and write about the human condition, and everything that falls within it...but this is irresponsible, lazy and just plain stupid.


actually, e, i think AuntiMallika is on to something. i have read a few romance novels in my day (ahem) and she's not kidding about how the woman is often forced to have sex and then promptly falls in love with her seducer/abuser/ rapist. if that doesn't promote self-hatred then i don't know what does.
to be clearer, i meant that trashy books about white people don't have self-hatred as a blatant part of the text/storyline...
oh, please do! i can't wait to see your recommended reading list.
When I saw the picture, I thought it was the cover for some new pornographic movie. Then I read your post and figure the movie can't be far behind.

Of course, in between sex scenes they'll need to have musical numbers a la West Side Story...

"Victoria....I just met a girl named Victoria...."
yes, but... see my other reply, about stereoyypes snd self-hatred.
yup. our comments must have crossed. :-)
thank you! am looking forward to it!!!
a lot of us have been cross-posting... ;)

I would LOVE to see what Mathilde
would write about this topic....

As I said, I've never read any of them, so I'm not sure what you mean by "blatant self-hatred."

But it seems to me that they all promote women selling themselves to the first comer/highest bidder/anyone who'll take her. Maybe she doesn't come out and say "I have no self-respect" but that's what her actions clearly convey.

Check the Amazon.com reviewer's comment that I posted, plus what RPM has been saying. (Especially re. darker and lighter-skinned women plus self-hatred.)
"Maybe she doesn't come out and say "I have no self-respect" but that's what her actions clearly convey." LOLZ. i know this is a serious subject, but i'm really enjoying the straight talk. in general, you're absolutely right. unfortunately for me, i have read plenty of trashy books so I think my experience lends some weight here.
e2c
I think I'm just gonna back off here (no offense, anyone!) and let RPM and IG address these issues.

AFAIK, no "white" romances deal quite the lethal hand that RPM is seeing in books (and series) like this one. We might struggle with self-hatred as individuals, but we do NOT have to wrestle with the kinds of things she's (rightly) angry about, let alone see them on the big screen, small screen, and in books like this one.
Taking race out of it and just concentrating on the women that read these sorts of books, aren't the ideas in them already firmly established in their minds years before they get into this sort of thing? It seems to me that the women that believe men are the be-all and end-all to life and are waiting to be "saved" by one would be more prone to reading this crap than getting into Simone de Beauvoir. I've never bought the argument that are just a fun way to spend the afternoon at the beach or whatever - there are many, many far superior ways to escape. The sex scenes in books like that tend to be pretty lame too, so I don't get what's so titilating (heh) about them. I had a cousin who was really into them (oddly enough, didn't get a boyfriend until she was well into her 30s), so I read a few, and by the age of 13 I knew that wasn't how relationships worked.

Well, I've read maybe a dozen romance novels total in my life (I don't include Jane Austen and Georgette Heyer in this category), and that was eleven too many. The only one that I liked, and found even somewhat uplifting, was about woman, a wildlife photographer, who had been raped by a "friend" of her father's on a safari, or something where they were doing filming.

Amazingly, she didn't fall for her rapist, and she actually had psychological issues she was dealing with because of the rape. I can't remember who the romantic hero was--another photographer or something--but he was sweet and kind and patient with her, and let her have room to deal with her issues. Basically, he was the anti-trashy-novel romantic hero.

That's the one romance novel that I don't wish I had the hour back that I wasted reading it.

IG